From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ralf Angeli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scroll lock Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:56:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1119431975 9618 80.91.229.2 (22 Jun 2005 09:19:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:19:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 22 11:19:26 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dl1O2-0007hS-2a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:19:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dl1Ud-00006n-19 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:25:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dl18o-0007oW-KU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:03:27 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dl18P-0007X6-0E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:03:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dl17T-00070z-Bt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:02:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [134.96.7.31] (helo=justus.rz.uni-saarland.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dl0jM-0003xw-5p; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 04:37:08 -0400 Original-Received: from iwi-gate.iwi.uni-sb.de (iwi-gate.iwi.uni-sb.de [134.96.72.13]) by justus.rz.uni-saarland.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5M7uPHs5149800; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:56:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [134.96.72.190] (helo=neutrino.iwi.uni-sb.de) by iwi-gate.iwi.uni-sb.de with esmtp (Exim 4.43 (FreeBSD)) id 1Dl05l-0007Y8-0m; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:56:13 +0200 Original-Received: from angeli by neutrino.iwi.uni-sb.de with local (Exim 4.51) id 1Dl05l-0004WX-Ot; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:56:13 +0200 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:41:00 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-IWi-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-IWi-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-IWi-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0, required 5, autolearn=disabled) X-MailScanner-From: angeli@iwi.uni-sb.de X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.1 (justus.rz.uni-saarland.de [134.96.7.31]); Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:56:25 +0200 (CEST) X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir Milter 1.0.6; AVE 6.31.0.7; VDF 6.31.0.90 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:39286 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:39286 * Richard M. Stallman (2005-06-22) writes: > It seems like a feature worth adding. However, is it really right > to modify next-line? It is not a scroll command. This is the main point of the mode. It should make moving in buffers more pager-like. For example, in `less' the keys `C-n' and `C-p' will scroll the buffer, not move point. That means such a mode could also improve convenience of browsing manual pages with WoMan or info pages with the built-in info reader. Regarding the implementation: If people think it is sensible to extend the meaning of `scroll-preserve-screen-position' to any kind of scroll events, I could prepare a patch covering the changes in window.c as well. -- Ralf