From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: enriched-mode problems Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:58:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20050615.070838.116346726.wl@gnu.org> <87u0jzsr9i.fsf@xs4all.nl> <87mzpqbk51.fsf@xs4all.nl> <87y89639xk.fsf@xs4all.nl> <85r7ex7ben.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85vf481dma.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1119394736 24605 80.91.229.2 (21 Jun 2005 22:58:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:58:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lute.Kamstra.lists@xs4all.nl, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 22 00:58:51 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dkrgi-0004lI-Kc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:57:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DkrnE-0008Nf-5Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:04:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dkrls-000892-66 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:03:08 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dkrlm-00084o-Vb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:03:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dkrll-00082X-6j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:03:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dkrks-0005lE-GC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:02:06 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Dkrh9-0000m9-P1; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:58:15 -0400 Original-To: David Kastrup In-reply-to: <85vf481dma.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:29:49 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:39257 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:39257 Anyway, it seems pretty natural to offer minor modes with a customizable default setting, and not all minor modes might be 100% user-preference. Minor modes are supposed to be used for user preferences. Things which are not user preferences should be handled with variables that are not minor modes and not called "mode". I know people don't follow the conventions all the time, but we will not design Emacs features for the sake of not following the conventions of Emacs.