From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A few issues with thumbs.el Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:38:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200506131956.49952.pogonyshev@gmx.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1118706646 440 80.91.229.2 (13 Jun 2005 23:50:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: karl@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, brakjoller@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 14 01:50:45 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dhygq-0001AA-Mh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:50:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dhylj-0002se-Uz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:55:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dhyhi-0001ZN-Fk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:50:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dhyha-0001WQ-7S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:50:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dhyha-0001RZ-0X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:50:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DhyXI-00075S-24 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:40:08 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1DhyVZ-0003BI-PQ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:38:21 -0400 Original-To: Paul Pogonyshev In-reply-to: <200506131956.49952.pogonyshev@gmx.net> (message from Paul Pogonyshev on Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:56:49 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:38764 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:38764 > Seems quite good although I don't like the idea of using PNG-files as > their size is much larger than using JPEG. > > The file names are named according to the absolute URI's MD5 value, > which most in this thread seems to dislike (including myself). > > Would someone like to design a GNU standard for thumbnails? I would say that GNU standard should be equal to the freedesktop.org standard. There is absolutely no reason to split over this issue. The "freedesktop.org standard" is simply the preference of a certain group of people. The questions they express opinions about are primarily (though not exclusively) the design conventions of the GNU system--but they are not part of the GNU Project and do not cooperate much with the GNU Project. That is not very nice. They are entitled to state their preferences, but those preferences are merely their preferences, nothing more. If they propose something that is good, we may as well use it. It would be silly to deliberately make something inferior. However, people have already stated here the reasons why that particular proposal would be inconvenient. If there are problems with the mentioned proposal, then they should be discussed with its maintaner. Whoever wants to talk with them about changing it is welcome to do so. I will not approach them as a suppliant on behalf of the GNU Project because that would endorse the unacceptable idea that the GNU Project needs their approval. However, it would cause no problem if you talk with them. Meanwhile, to prevent things from simply drifting into following their proposal, I am looking for someone who would like to draw up a GNU standard for where to store thumbnails. To have a concrete better alternative written down cannot hurt the chances of convincing anyone.