From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should overlays evaporate by default? Conclusion: No! Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 07:52:40 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200505271923.j4RJN7o5030391@brains.moreideas.ca> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1117282082 29588 80.91.229.2 (28 May 2005 12:08:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 12:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ttn@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 28 14:08:01 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dc06D-000363-Eq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:07:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dc0Ag-0008Uf-F0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:12:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dc02T-0003KW-4l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:03:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dc022-00035j-MZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:03:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dc00z-0002Ib-Oc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 May 2005 08:02:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DbztR-00058v-Nu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:54:17 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Dbzrs-0004tB-1F; Sat, 28 May 2005 07:52:40 -0400 Original-To: Peter Whaite In-reply-to: <200505271923.j4RJN7o5030391@brains.moreideas.ca> (message from Peter Whaite on Fri, 27 May 2005 15:23:07 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:37825 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:37825 I did start to patch files exposed by my limited testing (see below), but there were many, and I found I was setting 'evaporate to nil, not t. Given that, and given that magically disappearing is in general surprising default behaviour, then it would be better to retain the current overlay defaults. Ok. Thanks for testing this. Did you find any cases where the code ought to put on t as the evaporate property? Your patches include one, in gnus-cite. Were there others?