From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default custom group Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 18:44:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1116456889 25614 80.91.229.2 (18 May 2005 22:54:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 19 00:54:48 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DYXQB-0004IQ-FN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 May 2005 00:53:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DYXSh-0004qa-TS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:56:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DYXLQ-0001Yo-JA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:48:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DYXLM-0001X5-Db for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:48:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DYXLK-0001Qx-HN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:48:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DYXPy-0003dV-Ja for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:53:34 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1DYXHL-00062d-CL; Wed, 18 May 2005 18:44:39 -0400 Original-To: Katsumi Yamaoka In-reply-to: (message from Katsumi Yamaoka on Wed, 18 May 2005 15:18:50 +0900) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:37309 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:37309 I'm sorry for insufficient information. It was caused by the following form which didn't specify the parent group. (defgroup smime nil "S/MIME configuration.") That ought to be fixed, and likewise any other defgroups that fail to specify a parent. Yesterday, I changed my mind and added the ``:group 'something'' argument to every defgroup, defface and defcustom forms in which it hasn't been specified in Gnus (the changes will be propagated into the Emacs trunk after a while). Thank you. (What is the upper bound on "a while"?) At that time, I felt like to add some first-level groups (e.g., cryptograph, security, etc.) is necessary. Maybe you are right. It would not be hard to add first-level groups now; it won't break anything. However, I want to consider the question carefully. For instance, it doesn't make sense to add both cryptography and security as first-level groups; the latter includes the former.