From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: /lib/cpp not found in c-mode Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 12:12:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: <17013.26868.207510.370151@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17013.52411.51878.781739@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17014.39042.74353.677362@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <87d5s8144e.fsf@zemdatav.stor.no-ip.org> <17017.13673.613123.524633@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <87ll6tn4hh.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <01c5519b$Blat.v2.4$0c9b1d00@zahav.net.il> <17018.35323.755067.631608@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <01c55238$Blat.v2.4$0e1c2960@zahav.net.il> <17021.32598.971011.99464@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <01c55386$Blat.v2.4$7a86b9e0@zahav.net.il> <17021.40117.645406.763859@farnswood.snap.net.nz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1115568508 10911 80.91.229.2 (8 May 2005 16:08:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 16:08:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 08 18:08:26 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DUoKG-0000D3-Ky for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 May 2005 18:08:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DUoSQ-0004q4-67 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 May 2005 12:16:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DUoR3-0004N6-I0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 May 2005 12:15:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DUoR1-0004M7-Ds for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 May 2005 12:15:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DUoR1-0004L0-6m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 May 2005 12:15:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DUoV0-0007Nd-Po for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 May 2005 12:19:22 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1DUoOS-0003GV-2Y; Sun, 08 May 2005 12:12:36 -0400 Original-To: Nick Roberts In-reply-to: <17021.40117.645406.763859@farnswood.snap.net.nz> (message from Nick Roberts on Sun, 8 May 2005 16:59:33 +1200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:36862 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:36862 locate-file is a function that > didn't exist in previous versions, so it's a Lisp-level change. > Moreover, we want Lisp programmers to know about it because it > performs its job in a way that hides system dependencies while doing > TRT. That is right. Who is NEWS directed at? Users or developers? NEWS is meant for users, not developers. Users of Emacs often write Lisp programs, so changes in the Emacs Lisp language features are part of the information they need. GNU Emacs NEWS -- history of user-visible changes. 2003-05-21 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ to something like say: GNU Emacs NEWS -- history of user-visible and lisp level changes. 2003-05-21 That text is correct and doesn't need change. (However, the date should be updated.)