From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bootstrap from scratch Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:50:12 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200505051718.j45HIrFG002303@emr.cs.iit.edu> <87fyx11pm0.fsf@vera.springies.com> <87vf5xzdbb.fsf@vera.springies.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1115405842 30061 80.91.229.2 (6 May 2005 18:57:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:57:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: reingold@emr.cs.iit.edu, gmorris@ast.cam.ac.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 06 20:57:21 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DU80S-0002jn-EQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 20:57:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DU888-0003Zs-L3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 15:04:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DU86k-000315-AG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 15:03:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DU86j-00030S-C3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 15:03:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DU86K-0002b8-3o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 15:03:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DU7zo-0001vf-Ak for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:56:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1DU7ts-0004Vk-5s; Fri, 06 May 2005 14:50:12 -0400 Original-To: Alan Shutko In-reply-to: <87vf5xzdbb.fsf@vera.springies.com> (message from Alan Shutko on Thu, 05 May 2005 14:24:08 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:36766 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:36766 * calendar/appt.el: Only activate appt if in an interactive session. This stops appt from prompting during Emacs bootstrap. Just loading appt.el probably should not activate the feature. In the 90s it was not unusual for packages to work that way, but when Custom was added it became common for a package to be loaded simply because someone wanted to customize a variable. So our convention, since then, is that just loading a package shouldn't really change anything. If appt doesn't follow this convention, we should change it to do so.