From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: should xterm-mouse-mode be on by default? Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:31:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200504130141.j3D1fpAH016515@scanner2.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1113417375 24766 80.91.229.2 (13 Apr 2005 18:36:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:36:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 13 20:36:12 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLmiR-0005O9-38 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:35:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLmIz-0000BI-OJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:09:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DLmBd-0005EN-2J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:02:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DLmBO-00059O-6R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:01:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLmBM-00050j-7l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:01:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DLmeM-00088X-CH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:31:42 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1DLmdp-0003fw-Nl; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:31:09 -0400 Original-To: Dan Nicolaescu In-reply-to: <200504130141.j3D1fpAH016515@scanner2.ics.uci.edu> (message from Dan Nicolaescu on Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:41:48 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35947 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35947 xterm-mouse-mode is missing some very useful functionality (at least IMO): - it is not possible to double-click to select a word/line/etc. - it is not possible to select text with the mouse in emacs and then use mouse-2 to paste in another xterm, or emacs. How would you copy text from an emacs running in an ssh session in an xterm? A lot of users use these features, so IMO it is not a good idea to turn on xterm-mouse-mode by default at this point. I don't follow the logic. While the failure to implement some mouse features is clearly a drawback, why would it be better to implement none than to implement some? I don't see it.