From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Possible change to startup.el Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:01:20 +0200 Message-ID: Reply-To: ttn@glug.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112272306 9179 80.91.229.2 (31 Mar 2005 12:31:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 31 14:31:42 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGypP-0005aJ-84 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:31:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGz66-00027i-5F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:48:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DGyhB-0001po-NA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:22:45 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DGyh9-0001p4-Ko for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:22:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGyh9-0001gQ-5e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:22:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [151.38.237.38] (helo=surf.glug.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DGyGs-0007vM-Il for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:55:34 -0500 Original-Received: from ttn by surf.glug.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1DGyMS-0003wk-00; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:01:20 +0200 Original-To: Juri Linkov In-reply-to: message from Juri Linkov on Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:59:45 +0300 Original-References: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35420 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35420 From: Juri Linkov Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:59:45 +0300 The text "Emacs Tutorial" on the splash screen should not be replaced with a translation at all because it is the text of the menu item and menu items under the Help menu are not translated. there are five elements on the tutorial line: TITLE -- "Emacs Tutorial" translated for the current language env EN-TITLE -- English text "Emacs Tutorial" EN-BLURB -- English text "Learn-by-doing tutorial ... efficiently." tab -- a tab character (0x9) LIST-OF-AVAILABLE-TUTORIALS -- list of locale suffixes the pre-patch presentation format is: EN-TITLE tab EN-BLURB the patched presentation format is: (if data-directory is not availble) EN-TITLE tab EN-BLURB (if filename resolved from consulting language env is "TUTORIAL") EN-TITLE tab LIST-OF-AVAILABLE-TUTORIALS (otherwise) TITLE tab (EN-TITLE) LIST-OF-AVAILABLE-TUTORIALS what do you propose for the presentation format, based on these conditions and elements? thi