From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: require-hard-newlines to use newline Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:00:49 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1483.220.255.172.231.1109730379.squirrel@www.stupidchicken.com> <200503020302.j2232fR21722@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <2750.220.255.172.231.1109734015.squirrel@www.stupidchicken.com> <1415.220.255.169.59.1109818150.squirrel@www.stupidchicken.com> <1404.220.255.169.59.1109889146.squirrel@www.stupidchicken.com> <200503040033.j240XD022473@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <50554.203.116.59.23.1109897782.squirrel@www.stupidchicken.com> <200503080005.j2805Kg28696@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <2451.220.255.169.59.1110299961.squirrel@www.stupidchicken.com> <2518.220.255.169.59.1110532203.squirrel@www.stupidchicken.com> <3222 Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1110769344 4415 80.91.229.2 (14 Mar 2005 03:02:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, storm@cua.dk, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 14 04:02:23 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DAfqW-0004mu-R0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:02:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DAg67-0007Hv-R0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:18:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DAg5W-0007Ec-11 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:17:50 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DAg5R-0007Av-CD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:17:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DAg5R-0007A1-3T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:17:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DAfp4-0004XT-Cl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:00:50 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1DAfp3-0003uA-RS; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:00:49 -0500 Original-To: Stefan Monnier In-reply-to: <871xake86k.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 12 Mar 2005 18:53:07 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34556 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34556 I haven't thought really hard about it, but superficially, it would seem like a pretty common occurrence that the transformation should be different depending on the context (things like "was the beginning of the string at BOL?", or maybe for message-mode "is this taken from the header or the body of the email", ...). It's often a mistake to aim for generality that goes beyond the uses we have envisioned, because any easy job can be made hard if you do that. Anyway, it is easy enough to have a convention to put point at the start of where the text came from, before running the hook functions.