From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Customize buttons that change user's custom fileshouldaskforconfirmation Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 05:35:32 -0500 Message-ID: References: <00e301c509c1$9c761690$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <200502152320.j1FNKd310641@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1108640745 22056 80.91.229.2 (17 Feb 2005 11:45:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: abraham@dina.kvl.dk, lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, storm@cua.dk, snogglethorpe@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 17 12:45:44 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D1k6F-00032C-3X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:45:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D1kMN-000597-43 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 07:02:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D1jQV-0000qn-M6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 06:02:32 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D1jN4-0000XG-Ld for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 06:00:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D1jIx-0008Si-Cj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 05:54:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D1j4h-0004ec-C2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 05:39:59 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1D1j0O-0006wc-3N; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 05:35:32 -0500 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-reply-to: <200502152320.j1FNKd310641@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:20:39 -0600 (CST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33571 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33571 I would guess that the whole-buffer buttons are _very_ seldom used. We could poll the users and see. If users generally use the single-item button and not the whole-buffer buttons, I would not mind simplifying things by eliminating the latter. Most often, I just customize a specific variable or face, so for me there really isn't any conceptual difference between a per-variable and whole-buffer action. So I use the "whole-buffer" action buttons at the top of the customize buffer. For that kind of usage, you could equally well use either interface. So we could eliminate either one of the two. And, when I actually do customize a group of variables, I usually want to set/save all the variables that I changed, so again I use the "whole-buffer" buttons. Here's a case of someone who really wants the whole-buffer buttons. If the two of you can figure out what basic difference leads you to prefer these different modes of use, we might learn something from that.