From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New tack for Customize Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:02:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1108015772 15941 80.91.229.2 (10 Feb 2005 06:09:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 10 07:09:31 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cz7Vz-0003S7-Jb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 07:09:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cz7kf-0007z1-Gd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:24:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Cz7k2-0007rM-Ay for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:23:55 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Cz7ju-0007m9-7N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:23:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cz7jt-0007iy-T0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:23:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cz7TF-0004th-6X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:06:33 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Cz7Ph-00034g-Pk; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:02:53 -0500 Original-To: "Drew Adams" In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33178 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33178 The new tack looks good, aside from this one point. 10. The latter corresponds more or less with today's Erase Customization. If you choose it, however, no analysis of your custom file is done, and no customization is removed from it. Instead, an entry `(foo-option standard)' is added to `custom-set-variables', which is at the end of the custom file. I don't think we should get into this arms race. If an option is set explicitly within custom-set-variables, then resetting it to standard should be done by deleting mention of it. But if it is set within .emacs in some other way, then the only way to get rid of that is to edit .emacs suitably. Custom should not try to provide a way to override .emacs. It should just tell the user to edit this by hand.