From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Eliminating "changed in Emacs outside of Customize" Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 14:12:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87lla8xdps.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1107458224 10895 80.91.229.6 (3 Feb 2005 19:17:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 19:17:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 03 20:16:56 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CwmTI-0003Bq-00 for ; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 20:16:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cwmgf-0005hO-R1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 14:30:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CwmgF-0005fX-LA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 14:30:19 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CwmgE-0005f5-4W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 14:30:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CwmgE-0005f1-0u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 14:30:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CwmS8-0004IE-9x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 14:15:44 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CwmPH-0002uC-FB; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 14:12:47 -0500 Original-To: Per Abrahamsen In-reply-to: (message from Per Abrahamsen on Wed, 02 Feb 2005 08:57:55 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:32824 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:32824 The "Changed outside customize" has been a great help for me to catch those hooks, setq's and poorly written major modes, and I think Emacs has improved because of it, by fixing the modes and rethinking the hooks. We could provide an option to continue making the distinction, for the sake of testing.