From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Item for TODO? Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:50:31 -0500 Message-ID: References: <16880.39426.162103.127059@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <16882.988.683444.182420@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <16882.61748.111254.512676@farnswood.snap.net.nz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1106550877 10509 80.91.229.6 (24 Jan 2005 07:14:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:14:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 24 08:14:32 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CsyQh-0008L6-00 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 08:14:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Csyct-0000H7-Tp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:27:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Csybn-0008P2-IT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:25:59 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Csybe-0008Lc-4g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:25:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Csybd-000872-Q5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 02:25:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Csy5C-0007ln-1g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:52:18 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Csy3T-0003jE-DJ; Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:50:31 -0500 Original-To: Nick Roberts In-reply-to: <16882.61748.111254.512676@farnswood.snap.net.nz> (message from Nick Roberts on Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:35:00 +1300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:32524 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:32524 Even if the menu bar is fixed, it seems inconvenient to make tool bar like buttons share the menu bar with menus. I think its cleaner to keep them separate and then they can be toggled independently with tool-bar-mode and menu-bar-mode. It would be useful to make the usual tool-bar definitions work, although the tty implementation would look basically like the menubar.