From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Item for TODO? Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:52:26 -0500 Message-ID: References: <16880.39426.162103.127059@farnswood.snap.net.nz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1106363991 6955 80.91.229.6 (22 Jan 2005 03:19:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 22 04:19:44 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CsBoN-0006Q6-00 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 04:19:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CsC0S-0004qw-HD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:32:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CsBxH-00046R-1h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:28:55 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CsBui-0003sy-33 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:26:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CsBuc-0003oF-CZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:26:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CsBPT-0006KQ-6U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:53:59 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CsBNy-0004o6-Eo; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:52:26 -0500 Original-To: Nick Roberts In-reply-to: <16880.39426.162103.127059@farnswood.snap.net.nz> (message from Nick Roberts on Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:58:26 +1300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:32470 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:32470 I would like to see some of the toolbar functionality available to text-only terminals but do not want to do the work. Is it a generally desirable feature and can I add it to TODO? My angle is to improve Emacs capability as a debugger on a text-only terminal. I don't see the point. People who use text-only terminals normally do so because they prefer text commands. There is no way to display images, so a "tool bar" would have to have textual names, and then they might as well be in the menu bar. (A menu bar item doesn't have to lead to a menu. It can execute a command directly. Using submenus is just the usual practice.) Either way, you would have to invoke them with keys. So why not just bind the keys instead?