From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: push and pop Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:34:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1105132512.26051.75.camel@turtle.as.arizona.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1105198772 27737 80.91.229.6 (8 Jan 2005 15:39:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 15:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 08 16:39:24 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CnIgV-0000Bu-00 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:39:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnIru-00050V-T1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:51:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CnIqo-0004q9-4M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:50:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CnIqj-0004m7-HB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:49:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CnIqj-0004jv-6l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:49:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnIbZ-0004HX-3B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:34:17 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CnIbV-0006XW-2r; Sat, 08 Jan 2005 10:34:13 -0500 Original-To: JD Smith In-reply-to: <1105132512.26051.75.camel@turtle.as.arizona.edu> (message from JD Smith on Fri, 07 Jan 2005 14:15:12 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:32038 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:32038 I think the confusion for me and lots of others: many installs (like Fedora/Red Hat) include site-start stuff that does (or did) a (require 'cl) somewhere. Changing Emacs that way is not a good idea. If people come across these in the future, would you please complain to the maintainers of those distros?