From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Documentation for custom-file - is not (load custom-file) needed? Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:20:56 -0500 Message-ID: References: <200412140150.iBE1oTY02196@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1103066816 19388 80.91.229.6 (14 Dec 2004 23:26:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:26:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 15 00:26:50 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CeM4A-0006Wg-00 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 00:26:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CeMEK-0000Mw-RZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:37:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CeMDY-00005s-5J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:36:32 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CeMDW-000054-Nc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:36:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CeMDW-0008Vz-8w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:36:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CeM2a-0007LO-2P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:25:12 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CeLyS-0006pg-8I; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:20:56 -0500 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-reply-to: <200412140150.iBE1oTY02196@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:50:29 -0600 (CST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:31129 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:31129 There are (at least) four things wrong with 2-5 above. Firstly, it adds complexity for no good reason. It is for a very good reason: to enable custom to edit the right file, the one that was loaded. That's well worth this small amount of complexity. Secondly it breaks backward compatibility. I don't see any significant incompatibility. The file edited in this way will usually be the same one. Only the reason for choosing it will be different. A small amount of incompatibility in something unusual and advanced like this is no big deal. Thirdly, it introduces a shaky temporary solution to something that is currently not really broken and for which we plan to implement a more solid alternative later on anyway (by 7.). #7 is not a plan to implement anything. It just recognizes the possibility that someday we might go further. For the present, the only plan is what I've stated in points 1-6. Would someone like to implement some or all of this plan?