From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: kmacro.texi Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:10:28 -0500 Message-ID: References: <200411300430.iAU4UdV26748@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1101993251 6411 80.91.229.6 (2 Dec 2004 13:14:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 02 14:14:03 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CZqmY-0005yf-00 for ; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 14:14:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CZqw5-0000Bx-Vn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:23:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CZqvq-00008e-Jj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:23:38 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CZqvo-00007z-Ve for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:23:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CZqvo-00007F-SD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:23:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CZqls-0005m6-OS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:13:20 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CZqj6-0007Tu-Mg; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:10:28 -0500 Original-To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) In-reply-to: (storm@cua.dk) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:30606 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:30606 I looked for 'spirit' in the index of the Lisp ref, and didn't find it. We have never tried to make the Lisp Manual document all the design principles of Emacs, because that's not part of its job. Why do you think this is rarely used -- I use it _often_. I am sure most users only occasionally define a keyboard macro, and don't have so many that they need to look at the definitions through a ring. Users who define keyboard macros often enough to want this feature are surely few in number. And C-x e e e ... already does something very similar. Nobody has complained about that so far. And C-u C-SPC C-SPC C-SPC ... These are much more limited--but indeed the first of them bothers me. With your proposal, I have to mess up the window layout just to rotate the macro ring I don't think that is a valid conclusion. Exiting this mode in the "usual" way could restore the old window layout.