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I had nothing to do with implementing Gosmacs.  It was inspired
by the original Emacs, but that's all.  I would never have agreed
to use a language like Mocklisp.

Gosling originally asked the user community to improve Gosmacs.
In an early manual, he said he hoped other people would improve
it so that it became worth of the name "Emacs".  But then he
made it proprietary.