From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:04:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20041102215135.GA20505@fencepost> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1099501573 10410 80.91.229.6 (3 Nov 2004 17:06:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 17:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, ke@gnu.franken.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 03 18:06:06 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CPOaE-0005R1-00 for ; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 18:06:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CPOiH-0000hr-Ur for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:14:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CPOhp-0000g3-Pu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:13:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CPOho-0000eb-8O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:13:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CPOhn-0000dp-Ud for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:13:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CPOZb-00040D-Hc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:05:27 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CPOYE-0005je-0O; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:04:02 -0500 Original-To: Miles Bader In-reply-to: <20041102215135.GA20505@fencepost> (message from Miles Bader on Tue, 2 Nov 2004 16:51:35 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:29398 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:29398 The main problem with these commands -- and so why I haven't pursued adding them to the official sources[*] -- is that they don't interact well with a default face which has been set using customize-face (because the Emacs face-customization machinery sucks). Could you please describe the problem in a clearer, more constructivne way? BTW, C-+ is OK because it's currently unused, but C-- is already bound and I've been known to use it, so otherpeople might use it as well. If someday we make faces more useful than now, it might be worth redefining C-- this way. The commands could apply to the region when transient-mark-mode is non-nil.