From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: intern-soft, find-face/get-face, and facep for determining faces' definedness Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 07:45:01 -0500 Message-ID: References: <0whwtx5meng.fsf@rescomp.Stanford.EDU.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87k6t4rd5b.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <847aaaf204110123282bb4ddd8@mail.gmail.com> <847aaaf20411020048201a2419@mail.gmail.com> <87mzy0pl0o.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1099486223 26916 80.91.229.6 (3 Nov 2004 12:50:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:50:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, stephen@xemacs.org, bpalmer@rescomp.stanford.edu, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Wed Nov 03 13:50:14 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org ([199.184.165.135] ident=ident-user) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CPKac-0000G4-00 for ; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:50:14 +0100 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iA3Ckb4v010532; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 07:46:38 -0500 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iA3CkZ2q010522 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 07:46:35 -0500 Original-Received: (from xemacweb@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iA3CkZX5010519 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 07:46:35 -0500 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iA3CkQ1u010485 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 07:46:26 -0500 Original-Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iA3CkQU4010483 for xemacweb@tux.org; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 07:46:26 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [199.232.76.164]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iA3CkPxI010477; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 07:46:26 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CPKVZ-0000vI-4N; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 07:45:01 -0500 Original-To: Stefan In-reply-to: (message from Stefan on Tue, 02 Nov 2004 07:01:49 -0500) Received-SPF: pass (gwyn.tux.org: localhost is always allowed.) Received-SPF: pass (gwyn.tux.org: localhost is always allowed.) Received-SPF: pass (gwyn.tux.org: localhost is always allowed.) Received-SPF: pass (gwyn.tux.org: domain of rms@gnu.org designates 199.232.76.164 as permitted sender) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040527, clamav-milter version 0.71c on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040527, clamav-milter version 0.71c on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040527, clamav-milter version 0.71c on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040527, clamav-milter version 0.71c on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Status: Clean X-XEmacs-List: beta X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:16674 gmane.emacs.devel:29379 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:29379 I still don't understand why (facep 'foo) returns nil, even though (put-text-property (point) (+ 10 (point)) 'face 'foo) and (set-face-foreground 'foo "red") work just fine. I don't understand what you mean here. As far as I know, if (facep 'foo) returns nil, then (set-face-foreground 'foo "red") will signal an error, "Invalid face". Conversely, if you define foo as face, then (facep 'foo) will return t.