From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Moving files from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/? Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:45:09 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <4nzn2jud2r.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1098204380 12277 80.91.229.6 (19 Oct 2004 16:46:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 19 18:46:10 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CJx7h-0006F1-00 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:46:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CJxF2-0007tc-Nd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:53:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CJxEY-0007bA-RS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:53:14 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CJxEX-0007aP-Oh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:53:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CJxEX-0007ZZ-AB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:53:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CJx73-000709-Cj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:45:29 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CJx6j-0000Nu-41; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:45:12 -0400 Original-To: Ted Zlatanov In-reply-to: <4nzn2jud2r.fsf@lifelogs.com> (message from Ted Zlatanov on Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:54:20 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28611 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28611 > If the Gnus developers want to keep including some version of these > files, such as for compatibility purposes, they can. But they should > not install those files into the Emacs repository any more. And they > should probably arrange that the separately-distributed Gnus won't use > the Gnus versions of those files when running in an Emacs version that > already has the facility built in. The problem is that Gnus should run in older versions of Emacs as well, when installed by itself. This may become a big problem because many users simply can't upgrade. I'm not sure what to do. Gnus is mainly useful to the GNU Project is as a part of Emacs. Support for using new versions of Gnus in old Emacs versions is nice if you want to do it, but it's not essential for Gnu. I don' think this is a hard problem to solve, once you put your mind to it.