From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: feedback on customize -- apropos-groups et al Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:16:36 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097421572 19860 80.91.229.6 (10 Oct 2004 15:19:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 15:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 10 17:19:26 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CGfTp-0000Jh-00 for ; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 17:19:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CGfai-0001V0-Uc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:26:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CGfYS-00009K-SJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:24:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CGfYR-00007w-GP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:24:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CGfYQ-00006E-Mm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:24:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CGfR6-0004po-Rr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:16:36 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CGfR6-00030e-Ea; Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:16:36 -0400 Original-To: "Drew Adams" In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28184 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28184 How do I find information about customize groups? How do I find information about the organization of customize itself? M-x customize RET shows you information about customize groups. The top of the Custom buffer has a Help link to the manual's description. 3. I don't know the policy on accessibility or platform compatibility, but I wonder if it wouldn't be possible to have a version of the Info section on customize that reflects the UI on a window system? I don't understand. 4. As to customize itself, it would be clearer if buttons that acted only as links looked like links. Buttons should be reserved for real _actions_. Too many buttons(!) -- most of which are not. Also, instead of having this: How should a link look?