[jari.aalto@poboxes.com: Re: maybe disable scroll-left]

[jari.aalto@poboxes.com: Re: maybe disable scroll-left]

[Richard Stallman]

What do people think of this idea?  It seems plausible to me.

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Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> writes:

> I found a keystroke that will leave users jumbled if accidentally hit:
> C-x < runs the command scroll-left.
> Hey man, where'd my text go? Undo, undo, undo... no relief.
> Maybe it's hiding up at the top left corner somewhere? Hitting
> beginning-of-buffer, backwards-char, beginning-of-line won't help.
| 
> Maybe "disable" scroll-left.

I second to this. It's quite a surprise for a starter, so it would be
better of disabled.

Jari


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Re: [jari.aalto@poboxes.com: Re: maybe disable scroll-left]

[Alex Schroeder]

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>> I found a keystroke that will leave users jumbled if accidentally hit:
>> C-x < runs the command scroll-left.
>> Hey man, where'd my text go? Undo, undo, undo... no relief.
>> Maybe it's hiding up at the top left corner somewhere? Hitting
>> beginning-of-buffer, backwards-char, beginning-of-line won't help.
>> Maybe "disable" scroll-left.

When I got started with Emacs this freaked me out.  I invariable
killed Emacs, not daring to save (assuming that the file would be
empty).

It took me a long time to learn what actually happened.  I think I
only discovered it when I was actually learning about scroll-left and
scroll-right.  *Then* I realized what had been happening.

An alternative to disabling it would be a message that tells me how to
return to the previous state.  Much like help on something says:

Type M-x switch-to-buffer RET to remove help window.  C-M-v to scroll the help.

We could use a message:

Type M-x scroll-right RET to scroll back to your previous position.

Alex.
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..O  Schroeder's fifth law:
OOO  Never accept more work than you can handle in one night of hacking.

Re: [jari.aalto@poboxes.com: Re: maybe disable scroll-left]

[Kim F. Storm]

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

> What do people think of this idea?  It seems plausible to me.

I think it makes very good sense!

Another approach could be to undo left scroll if all lines become
"invisible" doing that...  But that's a bit harder to do.


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> From: jari.aalto@poboxes.com
> Subject: Re: maybe disable scroll-left
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> To: gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org
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> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 22:24:09 +0300
> Organization: Elisa Internet customer
>
> Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> writes:
>
>> I found a keystroke that will leave users jumbled if accidentally hit:
>> C-x < runs the command scroll-left.
>> Hey man, where'd my text go? Undo, undo, undo... no relief.
>> Maybe it's hiding up at the top left corner somewhere? Hitting
>> beginning-of-buffer, backwards-char, beginning-of-line won't help.
> | 
>> Maybe "disable" scroll-left.
>
> I second to this. It's quite a surprise for a starter, so it would be
> better of disabled.
>

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

Re: [jari.aalto@poboxes.com: Re: maybe disable scroll-left]

[Richard Stallman]

Ok, I will make scroll-left a disabled command.