From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gnus update Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 03:18:22 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <1890.1089689203@newt.com> <2914-Tue13Jul2004070451+0300-eliz@gnu.org> <3589.1089692661@newt.com> <2914-Tue13Jul2004215551+0300-eliz@gnu.org> <861xjfkpgu.fsf@rumba.de.uu.net> <20040714220410.GA27263@fencepost> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1090135193 31197 80.91.224.253 (18 Jul 2004 07:19:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 07:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: fx@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 18 09:19:48 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bm5xc-0003Ug-00 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 09:19:48 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bm5xc-0007oq-00 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 09:19:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bm60E-0004cK-HM for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 03:22:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bm5zo-0004N4-03 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 03:22:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bm5zn-0004Mi-6l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 03:22:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bm5zn-0004MN-1y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 03:22:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bm5wF-00058m-Rf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 03:18:23 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Bm5wE-0002jD-QU; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 03:18:22 -0400 Original-To: Reiner Steib In-reply-to: (message from Reiner Steib on Fri, 16 Jul 2004 19:38:22 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:25810 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:25810 Apart from that, I see from Gnus' ChangeLog that he installed many changes in Gnus 5.10 related to message de/encoding (rfc2047.el, mm-*.el, ...). IIRC there also were entries in Emacs' lisp/gnus/ChangeLog from Dave mentioning "(partial) sync with Gnus" or similar. That sounds good. In Fundamental mode, but not in Text mode, an indented line also starts a new paragraph. This statement is also not true. The regexp does not recognise indentation as starting paragraphs, only blank lines. How about this? @kbd{M-@{} moves to the beginning of the current or previous paragraph, while @kbd{M-@}} moves to the end of the current or next paragraph. Blank lines and text-formatter command lines separate paragraphs and are not considered part of any paragraph. In Indented Text mode, but not in Text mode, an indented line also starts a new paragraph. Thanks.