Re: Invalid read syntax for compiled bool vector

Re: Invalid read syntax for compiled bool vector

[Richard Stallman]

    Apparently, you have to bind coding-system-for-write before writing a
    source file with a literal bool-vector constant in it, or else Emacs
    will either ask the user for the coding system, or write the file
    using some default coding system which may not do the right thing.

I guess we should change the syntax for bool-vectors
so as to put just 4 bits into each character.
The question is how to do that in a somewhat compatible way.

Re: Invalid read syntax for compiled bool vector

[Andreas Schwab]

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     Apparently, you have to bind coding-system-for-write before writing a
>     source file with a literal bool-vector constant in it, or else Emacs
>     will either ask the user for the coding system, or write the file
>     using some default coding system which may not do the right thing.
>
> I guess we should change the syntax for bool-vectors
> so as to put just 4 bits into each character.
> The question is how to do that in a somewhat compatible way.

The print syntax could use octal or hexadecimal escapes in the bit string.

Andreas.

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Re: Invalid read syntax for compiled bool vector

[Lars Brinkhoff]

Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de> writes:
> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> >     Apparently, you have to bind coding-system-for-write before
> >     writing a source file with a literal bool-vector constant in
> >     it, or else Emacs will either ask the user for the coding
> >     system, or write the file using some default coding system
> >     which may not do the right thing.
> > I guess we should change the syntax for bool-vectors so as to put
> > just 4 bits into each character.  The question is how to do that
> > in a somewhat compatible way.
> The print syntax could use octal or hexadecimal escapes in the bit string.

Yes.  Since the print syntax for bool-vectors looks like strings, I
would sugggest doing whatever the print syntax for strings does.

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Re: Invalid read syntax for compiled bool vector

[Andreas Schwab]

Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org> writes:

> Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de> writes:
>> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>> >     Apparently, you have to bind coding-system-for-write before
>> >     writing a source file with a literal bool-vector constant in
>> >     it, or else Emacs will either ask the user for the coding
>> >     system, or write the file using some default coding system
>> >     which may not do the right thing.
>> > I guess we should change the syntax for bool-vectors so as to put
>> > just 4 bits into each character.  The question is how to do that
>> > in a somewhat compatible way.
>> The print syntax could use octal or hexadecimal escapes in the bit string.
>
> Yes.  Since the print syntax for bool-vectors looks like strings, I
> would sugggest doing whatever the print syntax for strings does.

I have now changed the print syntax to always use octal escapes for
non-ascii characters in the bool-vector string.  This way the string will
always be read as unibyte string, avoiding all coding issues.

Andreas.

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Re: Invalid read syntax for compiled bool vector

[David Kastrup]

Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de> writes:

> Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org> writes:
>
> > Yes.  Since the print syntax for bool-vectors looks like strings,
> > I would sugggest doing whatever the print syntax for strings does.
> 
> I have now changed the print syntax to always use octal escapes for
> non-ascii characters in the bool-vector string.  This way the string
> will always be read as unibyte string, avoiding all coding issues.

I think that hexadecimal notation would be quite more compact, without
a loss of generality and (probably unimportant) readability.

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Re: Invalid read syntax for compiled bool vector

[Andreas Schwab]

David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:

> I think that hexadecimal notation would be quite more compact, without
> a loss of generality and (probably unimportant) readability.

If you use hexadecimal notation then the reader will force the string to
multibyte, with octal notation it is forced to unibyte.  The process of
converting a unibyte string to multibyte will change characters in the
range 0x80..0x9f.  Maybe the bool vector reader should just force the
string back to unibyte.

Andreas.

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Re: Invalid read syntax for compiled bool vector

[David Kastrup]

Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de> writes:

> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > I think that hexadecimal notation would be quite more compact, without
> > a loss of generality and (probably unimportant) readability.
> 
> If you use hexadecimal notation then the reader will force the string to
> multibyte, with octal notation it is forced to unibyte.  The process of
> converting a unibyte string to multibyte will change characters in the
> range 0x80..0x9f.  Maybe the bool vector reader should just force the
> string back to unibyte.

Ah, uh, ok.  Just forget it, then.  Looks like I did not know what I
was talking about.  Not that this happens too rarely...

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Re: Invalid read syntax for compiled bool vector

[Richard Stallman]

    The print syntax could use octal or hexadecimal escapes in the bit string.

That would be incompatible for some bool-vector values, wouldn't it?
The \ character could appear in a bool-vector with the current syntax.

To avoid misinterpreting some constants, I think we need to change the
syntax in a bigger way, to use a new syntax that would not be valid at
all under the old rules.

Re: Invalid read syntax for compiled bool vector

[Richard Stallman]

    I have now changed the print syntax to always use octal escapes for
    non-ascii characters in the bool-vector string.  This way the string will
    always be read as unibyte string, avoiding all coding issues.

That was too hasty.  As I mentioned earlier, this solution would cause
some previously-written bool-vectors to be read wrong.

If nobody has any previously-written bool-vectors, that incompatibility
does not matter, but are we confident of that?  And is there a better way?

Re: Invalid read syntax for compiled bool vector

[Andreas Schwab]

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     The print syntax could use octal or hexadecimal escapes in the bit string.
>
> That would be incompatible for some bool-vector values, wouldn't it?
> The \ character could appear in a bool-vector with the current syntax.

No, the print syntax already used backslash as escape within the string,
and the reader just uses the normal string parser.

Andreas.

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Re: Invalid read syntax for compiled bool vector

[Andreas Schwab]

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     I have now changed the print syntax to always use octal escapes for
>     non-ascii characters in the bool-vector string.  This way the string will
>     always be read as unibyte string, avoiding all coding issues.
>
> That was too hasty.  As I mentioned earlier, this solution would cause
> some previously-written bool-vectors to be read wrong.

The new syntax variant is completely backward and forward compatible.

Andreas.

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Re: Invalid read syntax for compiled bool vector

[Richard Stallman]

    No, the print syntax already used backslash as escape within the string,
    and the reader just uses the normal string parser.

Ok, in that case I see no problem in your solution.
Thanks for taking care of the problem.