From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: suggested feature -- console-mode frame title sets Xterm title Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:07:00 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20031002063338.GA25969@vexed.ozlabs.hp.com> <20031003010404.GB1259@sourcefrog.net> <20031014035931.GH15872@vexed.ozlabs.hp.com> <20031015024709.GC18244@vexed.ozlabs.hp.com> <9743-Thu16Oct2003093207+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> <20031016083506.GC20302@vexed.ozlabs.hp.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1066346802 18265 80.91.224.253 (16 Oct 2003 23:26:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:26:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@elta.co.il, emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 17 01:26:39 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AAHVv-0001t9-00 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 01:26:39 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AAHVu-0007A6-00 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 01:26:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AAHTG-0000wY-9V for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:23:54 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AAHH3-0001x5-RA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:11:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AAHGV-0001l2-Kf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:11:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AAHGQ-0001kX-4b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:10:38 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.24) id 1AAHCu-0002aK-R6; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:07:00 -0400 Original-To: Martin Pool In-reply-to: <20031016083506.GC20302@vexed.ozlabs.hp.com> (message from Martin Pool on Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:35:09 +1000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17186 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17186 However, on X frames it has the user-visible behaviour of setting the title, although inside emacs it is really setting f->name. Once you have done this, the format produced by frame-title-format is no longer seen. I wonder if any users count on this? That's specifying an explicit title. There needs to be a way to specify an explicit title, but I think we should disconnect it from the name parameter. I think it is ok to change the behavior of set-frame-name. It can't be used terribly often.