From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: windows-1251 language environment Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:21:45 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200310032356.54476.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <200310060013.52049.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <200310070254.LAA11795@etlken.m17n.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065979628 20607 80.91.224.253 (12 Oct 2003 17:27:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: handa@m17n.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, d.love@dl.ac.uk, jasonr@f2s.com, pogonyshev@gmx.net Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 12 19:27:05 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A8jzl-0007vN-00 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:27:05 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A8jzl-0002Iy-00 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 19:27:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A8jyG-0000Vr-6p for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:25:32 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A8jy6-0000Tv-OQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:25:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A8jxZ-0000HT-U8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:25:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A8jxZ-0000HI-MK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:24:49 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.24) id 1A8jub-0006Pr-Lb; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:21:45 -0400 Original-To: Stefan Monnier In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on 10 Oct 2003 13:42:42 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17045 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17045 Language environments might make sense internally, but I think we should encourage people to configure their Emacs by doing: - 1st and foremost, set your locale properly, or call `set-locale-environment' in your .emacs. This might make sense if these locale names are effectively standard. They are not standardized by POSIX. Is there a de-facto standard? How widely is it used? In general, I would prefer to have some Emacs-native way to do set these things, rather than rely on an external data type such as a locale name which is not defined naturally in Emacs terms.