From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changing the no-toolkit scrollbar thumb color. (minor issue) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:22:18 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87fzijz4th.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> <200309262123.h8QLNNi07638@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200309272155.h8RLttv09524@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200309281642.h8SGgxc11119@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200309281801.h8SI1gV11332@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200309282347.h8SNlEi12333@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200309290130.h8T1UAt12486@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1064927853 12956 80.91.224.253 (30 Sep 2003 13:17:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:17:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 30 15:17:31 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A4KNf-0002Xx-00 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:17:31 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A4KNe-000650-00 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:17:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A4Jpo-0002pW-86 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:42:32 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 1A4Jpi-0002ot-Gv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:42:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 1A4JpC-0002jW-Sy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:42:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A4JXe-0008B4-Fg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:23:46 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.20) id 1A4JWE-0008CT-UK; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:22:18 -0400 Original-To: bob@rattlesnake.com In-reply-to: (bob@rattlesnake.com) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16794 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16794 This does not go far enough. You should not be able to enter a customization buffer when customization does not work. Regarded as a general principle, that would be very hard to carry out. Emacs has many customizable options that only have an effect in certain situations. In principle, we could try to disable the ability to customize them when not in those situations, but that would be a lot of work. It would also be wrong, in a sense, because customizing these options and saving the changes can be meaningful even if the current situation is such that changing the option has no effect.