From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.bidi Subject: Re: merge emacs-bidi into the main tree Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 02:05:07 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87lluax3ch.fsf@emacswiki.org> <7458-Sun03Aug2003224354+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> <87smoi9p64.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87he4x5v7x.fsf_-_@emacswiki.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1060236778 24660 80.91.224.253 (7 Aug 2003 06:12:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 06:12:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-bidi@gnu.org, developer@arabeyes.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 07 08:13:20 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19ke1Y-00022Y-00 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2003 08:13:20 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19ke6r-00058G-00 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2003 08:18:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19kdwN-0004c3-Ey for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2003 02:07:59 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19kdv0-000466-Ng for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2003 02:06:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19kduR-0003je-NU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2003 02:06:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19kduR-0003jN-Hl; Thu, 07 Aug 2003 02:05:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.20) id 19kdtb-0004xY-QG; Thu, 07 Aug 2003 02:05:07 -0400 Original-To: Alex Schroeder In-reply-to: <87he4x5v7x.fsf_-_@emacswiki.org> (message from Alex Schroeder on Mon, 04 Aug 2003 16:54:42 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15825 gmane.emacs.bidi:113 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15825 Some people have been waiting for a long time for a bidi-enabled Emacs -- at least I have been waiting for more than a year. The strange thing is that we have a working implementation: emacs-bidi is available from www.m17n.org, and has been since Emacs 20.3 or earlier. I would expect that it needs merging to be able to be installed into the current sources. Is someone interested in doing that work? There are a few imperfections, or so I hear, but when I -- as a non-Arabic-speaker -- saw the Arabic glyphs rendered correctly on IRC (using ERC, the Emacs IRC client) -- I was surprised! Yes, there may be problems with the existing solution, but at least there *is* a solution. What do Hebrew and Arab users think of it? Eli Z, what is your opinion? Handa, what do you think?