From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: define-derived-mode again (was: Emacs design question) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:12:12 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200307141341.h6EDfxEd006523@rum.cs.yale.edu> <84wuei7jye.fsf_-_@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <200307211451.h6LEpJJH022123@rum.cs.yale.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1058886940 23170 80.91.224.249 (22 Jul 2003 15:15:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 22 17:15:39 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19eyph-0005sn-00 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:13:41 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19ez6t-0001TJ-00 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:31:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19eypC-0003Pc-Ss for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:13:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19eyon-0003Ol-S8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:12:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19eyoG-0002vU-UY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:12:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19eyoG-0002vL-LJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:12:12 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.20) id 19eyoG-00064k-DX; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:12:12 -0400 Original-To: "Stefan Monnier" In-reply-to: <200307211451.h6LEpJJH022123@rum.cs.yale.edu> (monnier+gnu/emacs@cs.yale.edu) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15666 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15666 Well, other than the fact that fundamental-mode is interactive, it is basically an alias for kill-all-local-variables, so the coding-convention that says that a major mode should start by calling kill-all-local-variables is pretty much the same as saying that every major mode should derive from fundamental-mode. I see your point, but I think it is useful to keep the distinction between major modes that are independent and those that really are derived from others.