From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposed new minor mode Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:09:33 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200306070151.h571pAe29047@eel.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1055034675 30458 80.91.224.249 (8 Jun 2003 01:11:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 01:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 08 03:11:13 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19OoiH-0007v6-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2003 03:11:13 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Op1Z-000595-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2003 03:31:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19OojC-00038M-HH for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:12:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Ooh5-0002KD-W0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:09:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Ooh2-0002HG-IV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:09:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Oogf-00029P-EK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:09:33 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.20) id 19Oogf-0004hH-83; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:09:33 -0400 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-reply-to: <200306070151.h571pAe29047@eel.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Fri, 6 Jun 2003 20:51:10 -0500 (CDT)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14898 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14898 I think the mode is a good idea. However, instead of using vis-mode-disable, just make all the variables buffer-local and not permanent. Then it will automatically go away when you change major modes. I also agree with Kastrup that it doesn't deserve a key binding like `i'. Or even `v'. I think of this as a general feature, so the command we teach people for invoking it should be one that works any time.