From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Will default key bindings spell the death of Emacs? Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:52:14 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <3ED67422.7060305@math.ku.dk> <20030529.174743.98156433.Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com> <844r3cw6ix.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054483051 4144 80.91.224.249 (1 Jun 2003 15:57:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 15:57:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 01 17:57:29 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19MVD7-00014f-00 for ; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 17:57:29 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19MVTJ-0003lf-00 for ; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 18:14:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19MVDu-0001xJ-Fi for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:58:18 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19MVDi-0001x4-9B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:58:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19MVDg-0001wW-Ub for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:58:05 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19MV82-0000QW-RN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:52:14 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.20) id 19MV82-0007nN-7H; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:52:14 -0400 Original-To: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Kai_Gro=DFjohann?=) In-reply-to: <844r3cw6ix.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> (kai.grossjohann@gmx.net) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14557 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14557 > We already have a feature that does more or less that job: the feature > of rebinding a command to another alternate command. For instance, a > major mode, instead of rebinding C-n, could rebind next-line. I think what's needed is the other way round: modes bind a symbolic function key, and the Church of Emacs uses C-n to invoke that symbolic function key, whereas the heretic Viperians use j to invoke the same. And then dired, say, could bind something to and Viperians can then type j to invoke the special dired function. Sorry, I don't see the difference. As far as I can tell, the existing feature does exactly this.