From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Idea for determining what users use Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 15:51:34 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <5786D156-9270-11D7-A0EF-00039363E640@swipnet.se> <200305301329.h4UDToq9021933@rum.cs.yale.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054410923 6922 80.91.224.249 (31 May 2003 19:55:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 19:55:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat May 31 21:55:21 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19MCRl-0001nG-00 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 21:55:21 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19MChY-00078p-00 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 22:11:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19MCTh-0002df-5q for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 31 May 2003 15:57:21 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19MCP1-00089P-Pp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2003 15:52:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19MCOi-0007lt-Ly for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2003 15:52:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19MCO7-00078x-3I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 May 2003 15:51:35 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.20) id 19MCO6-0007Ue-TZ; Sat, 31 May 2003 15:51:34 -0400 Original-To: "Stefan Monnier" In-reply-to: <200305301329.h4UDToq9021933@rum.cs.yale.edu> (monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu) Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14525 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14525 > Many machines can't send mail, but mail applications running on those > machines can. For many mail applications you specify incoming > (pop3/imap) > server and outgoing SMTP server. Emacs can not know about these unless > told. These are very badly configured machines. Maybe, but that may not be the local user's fault. It could be a case of unmodular design in the system. When there are new ways of sending mail, the system should be set up so that `mail' interfaces to them properly, so that applications that occasonally send mail will work and don't all need to know all these ways. It could be that this hasn't been done, and ought to be changed in various mailers.