From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Idea for determining what users use Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 20:49:17 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054255972 26624 80.91.224.249 (30 May 2003 00:52:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 00:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri May 30 02:52:49 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19LY7v-0006uI-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:52:11 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19LYMq-0004lt-00 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 03:07:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19LY7B-0005Yt-UC for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 29 May 2003 20:51:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19LY6k-0005Ms-Mh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 May 2003 20:50:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19LY63-0004nL-Ps for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 May 2003 20:50:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19LY58-00040c-0b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 May 2003 20:49:18 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.20) id 19LY57-0007O1-Lh; Thu, 29 May 2003 20:49:17 -0400 Original-To: Vincent LADEUIL In-reply-to: (message from Vincent LADEUIL on 28 May 2003 16:40:22 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14450 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14450 vila> What about people who use emacs for other things than vila> mail ? rms> I don't see why that would be a problem. Because they may not have configured emacs to send mail. Emacs does not need any special configuration to send mail. If the machine can send mail, Emacs can do it. vila> Or those more generally who cannot send mail from emacs vila> (for whatever reason). rms> I guess there is nothing we can do about that. My proposal was to help them cut&paste the relevant information into *their* favorite email tool. I didn't see that proposal, but they could certainly do this if they want to. (Nothing would stop them.) I don't see that anything special is needed. Ok, my experience regarding emacs users is that only a few of them use it for mail. I can very well be wrong on that point. Whether they use Emacs for mail on other occasions has no effect. It is not a relevant issue. So what about instrumenting "autoload" ? Or defining an autoload-obsolete function ? Sorry, I don't know what that would mean. I see no need for this to have any connection with the autoload mechanism. It will work just fine in autoloaded files.