From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Files in wrong subdirs of emacs/lisp? Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 08:49:31 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20030522132432.955B.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> <20030524143523.8511.LEKTU@terra.es> Reply-To: ttn@glug.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1053780571 22472 80.91.224.249 (24 May 2003 12:49:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 12:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jmbarranquero@laley.wke.es Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat May 24 14:49:29 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19JYSn-0005qI-00 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 14:49:29 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19JYf2-0007SQ-00 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 15:02:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19JYTm-0001kc-6K for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 24 May 2003 08:50:30 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19JYTG-0001DQ-EX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 May 2003 08:49:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19JYT7-0000bz-Bt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 May 2003 08:49:51 -0400 Original-Received: from colo.agora-net.com ([207.245.84.69]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19JYSr-0007x0-LA; Sat, 24 May 2003 08:49:33 -0400 Original-Received: from ttn by colo.agora-net.com with local (Exim 3.34 #1) id 19JYSp-0004Qf-00; Sat, 24 May 2003 08:49:31 -0400 Original-To: lektu@terra.es In-reply-to: <20030524143523.8511.LEKTU@terra.es> (message from Juanma Barranquero on Sat, 24 May 2003 14:38:41 +0200) Original-cc: rms@gnu.org Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-cc: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14192 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14192 From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 14:38:41 +0200 Perhaps it's just semanthics, but I wouldn't call "still useful" to something if no one uses it. in the context of providing things "useful" indicates only potentiality. in the context of using things "useful" indicates some (perhaps large) amount of actual use. because not all users are represented in these discussions, we cannot assume the latter context holds. if you purport to represent all users you lose credibility. something can be rendered "not useful" in the providing context if it is not cleanly composable w/ other provided things or if there is a clear bug in it standalone, in which case we have the option of fixing these problems in order to return it to a "useful" state (but that's still only a potential wrt the other context). thi