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    Maybe ls-lisp should frob `dired-use-ls-dired'.  Or it could remove
    the --dired switch in its `insert-directory' like below.  WDYT?

Your patch to discard and ignore --dired is cleaner than changing
dired-use-ls-dired.  So let's use that.

I wonder, though: does ls-lisp provide the same features for which we
use --dired, in some other way?  If not, it would be nice to add them.