From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:22:42 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200304111308.h3BD8oW03188@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <844r55f7yr.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <84ptnt6oc8.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <200304121456.h3CEuJ903989@eel.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1050233467 13984 80.91.224.249 (13 Apr 2003 11:31:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 11:31:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 13 13:31:04 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 194fhQ-0003dE-00 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 13:31:04 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 194fiH-0006Uq-00 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 13:31:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 194fgX-0000Jp-00 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:30:09 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 194ffD-000859-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:28:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 194fdC-0006oD-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:26:43 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 194fZM-0006Ab-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:22:44 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 194fZK-0006FP-00; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:22:42 -0400 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-reply-to: <200304121456.h3CEuJ903989@eel.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Sat, 12 Apr 2003 09:56:19 -0500 (CDT)) Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13200 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13200 I understood it, Jan is trying to implement Richard's proposal and therefore, was trying to understand exactly how the native scrollbar behaves. If I understand correctly, the behavior has not changed over the last few days, but it is likely to change in the future. There is some chance we will change the behavior of the native scrollbar; people have proposed some interesting ideas. However, people have not yet implemented them, and if they do, we will have to try them out before deciding whether to use them. So I would say the chance of a change is less than 50%.