From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: NEWS worthy? Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 05:09:40 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: ttn@glug.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1047118194 17212 80.91.224.249 (8 Mar 2003 10:09:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 08 11:09:51 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18rbH5-0004TM-00 for ; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 11:09:51 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18rbcK-0002kP-00 for ; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 11:31:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18rbHM-0000dH-01 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 05:10:08 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18rbGy-0000b6-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 05:09:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18rbGx-0000aX-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 05:09:44 -0500 Original-Received: from colo.agora-net.com ([207.245.84.69]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18rbGw-0000a2-00; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 05:09:42 -0500 Original-Received: from ttn by colo.agora-net.com with local (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18rbGu-0004i1-00; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 05:09:40 -0500 Original-To: keichwa@gmx.net In-reply-to: (message from Karl Eichwalder on Sat, 08 Mar 2003 07:01:43 +0100) Original-cc: rms@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12171 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12171 From: Karl Eichwalder Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 07:01:43 +0100 I don't know what dcl mode stands for. DIGITAL (RIP) command language, standard scripting offering under vms. personal [gt]ripe: at one point i considered myself a budding dcl hacker, but then a kind soul (at DEC no less) turned me onto emacs, after which dcl lost its charm due to lack of dcl support in emacs (at the time). even now, i see the global string font-locking mechanism mishandles dcl's peculiar (IMHO) quoting conventions; dcl syntax is both over- and under-permissive in all the wrong places.... > There is no need to put this in NEWS, because users will > get the benefit of it without having to know about it. Not necessarily. Maybe, the user has written himself a .dcl mode which is rather limited. Such a user most probably is interested in the NEWS of an official dcl mode -- but he will never see it, because he something as follows in .emacs (like me): (setq auto-mode-alist (append (list '("\\.dcl$" . dtd-mode) '("\\.mod$" . dtd-mode)) auto-mode-alist)) the change in question is a minor improvement on the extant dcl-mode, and so the associated NEWS (had it been worthy) would report this. reporting existince of dcl-mode happened already w/ emacs 20.1 release. if a user doesn't read the NEWS that cannot be helped, generally. thi