From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gdba probs Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 12:45:16 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <15855.47556.171128.631234@nick.uklinux.net> <20021208022757.GA8446@gnu.org> <200212101414.gBAEEws31564@rum.cs.yale.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1039633445 5044 80.91.224.249 (11 Dec 2002 19:04:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 19:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18MC9H-0001Im-00 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:03:59 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18MCKR-0007m3-01 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:15:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18MC44-0002Mj-05 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:58:36 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18MC3n-0002MH-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:58:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18MC3l-0002Ls-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:58:18 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18MAvC-0000km-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 12:45:22 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 18MAv6-000280-00; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 12:45:16 -0500 Original-To: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu In-reply-to: <200212101414.gBAEEws31564@rum.cs.yale.edu> (monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu) Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-cc: nick@nick.uklinux.net X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:10063 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:10063 Their meaning is indeed obvious when they're not empty. When they're empty, the buffer name gives a good hint, but I'm not sure it's enough to make it "obvious". When they are empty of real contents, they should instead display some text that explains what the window is for and how to use it. Agreed. Only displaying them when there's something to display would also solve the above "problem". Many users will like that feature, but I think it would be good to implement the help text also.