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@ 2002-11-01  8:04 Miles Bader
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From: Miles Bader @ 2002-11-01  8:04 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi Kim,\r਀ഊI see you put in your info changes.\r਀ഊIt does look nicer (cleaner), but there are some problems:\r਀ഊWhen I do `Memacs' from the top-level dir (with point at the beginning\r਀漀昀 琀栀攀 戀甀昀昀攀爀⤀Ⰰ 䤀 最攀琀 琀栀攀 昀漀氀氀漀眀椀渀最 攀爀爀漀爀㨀ഊ\r਀   䐀攀戀甀最最攀爀 攀渀琀攀爀攀搀ⴀⴀ䰀椀猀瀀 攀爀爀漀爀㨀 ⠀攀爀爀漀爀 ∀一漀 猀甀挀栀 愀渀挀栀漀爀 椀渀 琀愀最 琀愀戀氀攀 漀爀 渀漀搀攀 椀渀 琀愀最 琀愀戀氀攀 漀爀 昀椀氀攀㨀 吀栀攀 攀砀琀攀渀猀椀戀氀攀 猀攀氀昀ⴀ搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀椀渀最 琀攀砀琀 攀搀椀琀漀爀∀⤀ഊ     signal(error ("No such anchor in tag table or node in tag table or file: The extensible self-documenting text editor"))\r਀     攀爀爀漀爀⠀∀一漀 猀甀挀栀 愀渀挀栀漀爀 椀渀 琀愀最 琀愀戀氀攀 漀爀 渀漀搀攀 椀渀 琀愀最 琀愀戀氀攀 漀爀 昀椀氀攀㨀 ─猀∀ ∀吀栀攀 攀砀琀攀渀猀椀戀氀攀 猀攀氀昀ⴀ搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀椀渀最 琀攀砀琀 攀搀椀琀漀爀∀⤀ഊ     byte-code("Æ\b!ƒ1\0\b\x19Ç	\n\"‰^[ƒ0\0\vA@\x14È\v8É=„!\0Ê\f!\x14\v@ƒ0\0\f‰\x15bˆËÌÍ\"ˆ*eÎ\f!ÏZ]bˆÐ\n!‰\x1e\x13ƒL\0\x0e\x13bˆËÌÍ\"ˆÑÒ\x0e\x14\"ˆ)Ƈ" [Info-tag-table-marker m regexp found guesspos anchorpos marker-position Info-find-in-tag-table 2 Info-mode Info-read-subfile throw foo t byte-to-position 1000 Info-find-node-in-buffer error "No such anchor in tag table or node in tag table or file: %s" pos nodename] 4)\r਀     䤀渀昀漀ⴀ昀椀渀搀ⴀ渀漀搀攀ⴀ㈀⠀渀椀氀 ∀吀栀攀 攀砀琀攀渀猀椀戀氀攀 猀攀氀昀ⴀ搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀椀渀最 琀攀砀琀 攀搀椀琀漀爀∀ 渀椀氀⤀ഊ     Info-find-node(nil "The extensible self-documenting text editor")\r਀     䤀渀昀漀ⴀ最漀琀漀ⴀ渀漀搀攀⠀∀吀栀攀 攀砀琀攀渀猀椀戀氀攀 猀攀氀昀ⴀ搀漀挀甀洀攀渀琀椀渀最 琀攀砀琀 攀搀椀琀漀爀∀ 渀椀氀⤀ഊ     Info-menu("Emacs" nil)\r਀     挀愀氀氀ⴀ椀渀琀攀爀愀挀琀椀瘀攀氀礀⠀䤀渀昀漀ⴀ洀攀渀甀⤀ഊ\r਀嬀一漀琀攀 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 ∀吀栀攀 攀砀琀攀渀猀椀戀氀攀 ⸀⸀⸀∀ 椀猀 琀栀攀 搀攀猀挀爀椀瀀琀椀瘀攀 琀攀砀琀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀ഊ `Emacs' menu line, so apparently the `M' command is getting confused\r਀ 愀戀漀甀琀 栀漀眀 琀栀椀渀最猀 愀爀攀 昀漀爀洀愀琀琀攀搀⸀崀ഊ\r਀ഊThere are some other, more minor problems with this:\r਀ഊ  (1) The dir file (and presumably other info menus) I have was\r਀      昀漀爀洀愀琀琀攀搀 愀猀猀甀洀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 渀漀 琀攀砀琀 眀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 栀椀搀搀攀渀Ⰰ 猀漀 椀渀 猀漀洀攀 挀愀猀攀猀Ⰰഊ      the invisible text results in a very wierd looking display.\r਀ഊ      Here's an example display from my *info* dir node (these are all\r਀      搀攀戀椀愀渀 攀渀琀爀椀攀猀⤀㨀ഊ\r਀ⴀⴀⴀ 戀攀最椀渀 焀甀漀琀攀 ⴀⴀⴀഊ* CVS		        Concurrent Versions\r਀ऀऀऀऀऀऀ     匀礀猀琀攀洀ഊ* CVS client/server     Describes the\r਀ऀऀऀऀऀऀ     挀氀椀攀渀琀⼀猀攀爀瘀攀爀 瀀爀漀琀漀挀漀氀ഊ						     used by CVS.\r਀⨀ 最挀挀ⴀ㈀㤀㔀ऀऀ吀栀攀 䜀一唀 䌀漀洀瀀椀氀攀爀ഊ						     Collection (Version\r਀ऀऀऀऀऀऀ     ㈀⸀㤀㔀⸀砀⤀⸀ഊ* Gdb			The GNU debugger.\r਀⨀ 䜀搀戀ⴀ䤀渀琀攀爀渀愀氀猀ऀऀ吀栀攀 䜀一唀 搀攀戀甀最最攀爀✀猀ഊ						     internals.\r਀ⴀⴀⴀ  攀渀搀 焀甀漀琀攀  ⴀⴀⴀഊ\r਀      䠀攀爀攀✀猀 琀栀攀 琀攀砀琀 愀猀 椀琀 愀瀀瀀攀愀爀猀 眀椀琀栀漀甀琀 椀渀瘀椀猀椀戀氀攀 爀攀最椀漀渀猀㨀ഊ\r਀ⴀⴀⴀ 戀攀最椀渀 焀甀漀琀攀 ⴀⴀⴀഊ* CVS: (cvs).					     Concurrent Versions\r਀ऀऀऀऀऀऀ     匀礀猀琀攀洀ഊ* CVS client/server: (cvsclient).		     Describes the\r਀ऀऀऀऀऀऀ     挀氀椀攀渀琀⼀猀攀爀瘀攀爀 瀀爀漀琀漀挀漀氀ഊ						     used by CVS.\r਀⨀ 最挀挀ⴀ㈀㤀㔀㨀 ⠀最挀挀ⴀ㈀㤀㔀⤀⸀ऀऀऀऀ     吀栀攀 䜀一唀 䌀漀洀瀀椀氀攀爀ഊ						     Collection (Version\r਀ऀऀऀऀऀऀ     ㈀⸀㤀㔀⸀砀⤀⸀ഊ* Gdb: (gdb).					     The GNU debugger.\r਀⨀ 䜀搀戀ⴀ䤀渀琀攀爀渀愀氀猀㨀 ⠀最搀戀椀渀琀⤀⸀ऀऀऀ     吀栀攀 䜀一唀 搀攀戀甀最最攀爀✀猀ഊ						     internals.\r਀ⴀⴀⴀ  攀渀搀 焀甀漀琀攀  ⴀⴀⴀഊ\r਀      䘀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 愀戀漀瘀攀Ⰰ 椀琀 猀攀攀洀猀 琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀爀 挀栀愀渀最攀 愀氀猀漀 爀攀洀漀瘀攀猀 猀漀洀攀ഊ      whitespace, because just difference can't be accounted for by just\r਀      洀愀欀椀渀最 琀栀攀 渀漀搀攀ⴀ渀愀洀攀 愀渀搀 瀀甀渀挀甀琀愀琀椀漀渀 椀渀瘀椀猀椀戀氀攀⸀ഊ\r਀ഊ  (2) Cursor movement is `wierd' around the invisible text region.  For\r਀      椀渀猀琀愀渀挀攀Ⰰ 琀愀欀椀渀最 漀渀攀 漀昀 琀栀攀 洀攀渀甀 氀椀渀攀猀 昀爀漀洀 愀戀漀瘀攀㨀ഊ\r਀ⴀⴀⴀ 戀攀最椀渀 焀甀漀琀攀 ⴀⴀⴀഊ* gcc-295		The GNU Compiler\r਀ⴀⴀⴀ  攀渀搀 焀甀漀琀攀  ⴀⴀⴀഊ\r਀      眀栀攀渀 䤀 甀猀攀 䌀ⴀ昀 琀漀 洀漀瘀攀 昀漀爀眀愀爀搀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 戀攀最椀渀渀椀渀最 漀昀 琀栀攀 氀椀渀攀Ⰰഊ      everything's OK until point is before the `5'.  If I hit C-f\r਀      琀栀攀渀Ⰰ 瀀漀椀渀琀 樀甀洀瀀猀 琀漀 戀攀椀渀最 戀攀昀漀爀攀 琀栀攀 怀吀✀Ⰰ 眀栀攀渀 䤀 攀砀瀀攀挀琀攀搀 椀琀 琀漀ഊ      move to just after the `5'.  If I then hit C-f again, the cursor\r਀      搀漀攀猀渀✀琀 洀漀瘀攀Ⰰ 怀猀琀椀挀欀椀渀最✀ 愀琀 琀栀攀 瀀漀椀渀琀 戀攀昀漀爀攀 琀栀攀 怀吀✀㬀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 䌀ⴀ昀ഊ      then moves forward as expected.\r਀ഊ      I thought these sorts of problems were supposed to be generally\r਀      昀椀砀攀搀 琀栀攀猀攀 搀愀礀猀 ⠀眀攀氀氀Ⰰ 䌀ⴀ渀⼀䌀ⴀ瀀 愀爀攀 猀琀椀氀氀 昀甀挀欀攀搀 䤀 琀栀椀渀欀Ⰰ 戀甀琀ഊ      they're a separate case), so perhaps there's something odd with\r਀      琀栀攀 眀愀礀 礀漀甀✀爀攀 猀攀琀琀椀渀最 甀瀀 礀漀甀爀 椀渀瘀椀猀椀戀氀攀 琀攀砀琀⸀ഊ\r਀ഊ  (3) In the gcc-2.95 info doc, there's a node (`(gcc-295)G++ and GCC')\r਀      琀栀愀琀 挀漀渀琀愀椀渀猀 琀栀攀 昀漀氀氀漀眀椀渀最 琀攀砀琀㨀ഊ\r਀ⴀⴀⴀ 戀攀最椀渀 焀甀漀琀攀 ⴀⴀⴀഊthat you get better object code, and better debugging information.  The\r਀䜀一唀 搀攀戀甀最最攀爀Ⰰ 䜀䐀䈀Ⰰ 眀漀爀欀猀 眀椀琀栀 琀栀椀猀 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀 椀渀 琀栀攀 漀戀樀攀挀琀 挀漀搀攀 琀漀ഊgive you comprehensive C++ source-level editing capabilities (*note C\r਀愀渀搀 䌀⬀⬀㨀 ⠀最搀戀⸀椀渀昀漀⤀䌀⸀⤀⸀ഊ---  end quote  ---\r਀ഊ      your *note hack turns it into:\r਀ഊ--- begin quote ---\r਀琀栀愀琀 礀漀甀 最攀琀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 漀戀樀攀挀琀 挀漀搀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 戀攀琀琀攀爀 搀攀戀甀最最椀渀最 椀渀昀漀爀洀愀琀椀漀渀⸀  吀栀攀ഊGNU debugger, GDB, works with this information in the object code to\r਀最椀瘀攀 礀漀甀 挀漀洀瀀爀攀栀攀渀猀椀瘀攀 䌀⬀⬀ 猀漀甀爀挀攀ⴀ氀攀瘀攀氀 攀搀椀琀椀渀最 挀愀瀀愀戀椀氀椀琀椀攀猀 ⠀猀攀攀 䌀ഊand C++.info)C.).\r਀ⴀⴀⴀ  攀渀搀 焀甀漀琀攀  ⴀⴀⴀഊ\r਀  ⠀㐀⤀ 吀栀攀 眀爀愀瀀瀀椀渀最 瀀爀漀戀氀攀洀 栀愀瀀瀀攀渀猀 眀椀琀栀 ⨀渀漀琀攀 琀愀最猀 琀漀漀㬀 漀昀琀攀渀 椀琀✀猀 昀愀椀爀氀礀ഊ      benign (a line that's unusually short because of invisible'd text),\r਀      戀甀琀 猀漀洀攀琀椀洀攀猀 椀琀 最攀琀猀 愀 戀椀琀 甀最氀椀攀爀㬀 攀⸀最⸀ 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀㨀ഊ\r਀ⴀⴀⴀ 戀攀最椀渀 焀甀漀琀攀 ⴀⴀⴀഊ     order to be compiled,and also requires the header files for the\r਀     琀愀爀最攀琀✀猀 琀栀爀攀愀搀 氀椀戀爀愀爀礀 椀昀 礀漀甀 眀愀渀琀 琀栀爀攀愀搀 猀甀瀀瀀漀爀琀⸀  ⨀一漀琀攀ഊ     Cross-Compilers and Header Files: Cross Headers, for discussion\r਀     愀戀漀甀琀 栀攀愀搀攀爀 昀椀氀攀猀 椀猀猀甀攀猀 昀漀爀 挀爀漀猀猀ⴀ挀漀洀瀀椀氀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊ---  end quote  ---\r਀ഊ      turns into [note the wrapped line]:\r਀ഊ--- begin quote ---\r਀     漀爀搀攀爀 琀漀 戀攀 挀漀洀瀀椀氀攀搀Ⰰ愀渀搀 愀氀猀漀 爀攀焀甀椀爀攀猀 琀栀攀 栀攀愀搀攀爀 昀椀氀攀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀攀ഊ     target's thread library if you want thread support.  See Cross-Compilers and Header Files, for discussion\r਀     愀戀漀甀琀 栀攀愀搀攀爀 昀椀氀攀猀 椀猀猀甀攀猀 昀漀爀 挀爀漀猀猀ⴀ挀漀洀瀀椀氀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ഊ---  end quote  ---\r਀ഊ  (5) Cursor movement around the `See' is wierd, but I guess that's\r਀      猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 礀漀甀 挀愀渀 搀漀 洀甀挀栀 愀戀漀甀琀⸀ഊ\r਀  ⠀㘀⤀ 䄀栀Ⰰ 䤀 樀甀猀琀 猀愀眀 愀渀漀琀栀攀爀 洀椀猀昀漀爀洀愀琀琀攀搀 洀攀渀甀 攀渀琀爀礀㬀 琀栀攀 漀爀椀最椀渀愀氀㨀ഊ\r਀ⴀⴀⴀ 戀攀最椀渀 焀甀漀琀攀 ⴀⴀⴀഊ* gcc-3.2: (gcc-3.2).				     The GNU Compiler\r਀ऀऀऀऀऀऀ     䌀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 ⠀嘀攀爀猀椀漀渀 ㌀⸀㈀⤀⸀ഊ* gccint-3.2: (gccint-3.2).			     Internals of the GNU\r਀ऀऀऀऀऀऀ     䌀漀洀瀀椀氀攀爀 䌀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀ഊ						     (Version 3.2).\r਀ⴀⴀⴀ  攀渀搀 焀甀漀琀攀  ⴀⴀⴀഊ\r਀      琀甀爀渀猀 椀渀琀漀㨀ഊ\r਀ⴀⴀⴀ 戀攀最椀渀 焀甀漀琀攀 ⴀⴀⴀഊ* gcc-3.2		2).				     The GNU Compiler\r਀ऀऀऀऀऀऀ     䌀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀 ⠀嘀攀爀猀椀漀渀 ㌀⸀㈀⤀⸀ഊ* gccint-3.2		2).			     Internals of the GNU\r਀ऀऀऀऀऀऀ     䌀漀洀瀀椀氀攀爀 䌀漀氀氀攀挀琀椀漀渀ഊ						     (Version 3.2).\r਀ⴀⴀⴀ  攀渀搀 焀甀漀琀攀  ⴀⴀⴀഊ\r਀ഊAnyway, I basically like it, it's noticably easier to read than the old\r਀猀琀礀氀攀⸀ഊ\r਀ⴀ䴀椀氀攀猀ഊ-- \r਀嬀簀渀甀爀最氀攀簀崀  搀搀琀ⴀ 搀攀洀漀渀椀挀㼀 猀漀 焀甀愀欀攀 眀椀氀氀 栀愀瘀攀 愀渀 攀瘀椀氀 欀椀渀搀愀 猀攀琀琀椀渀最㼀 漀渀攀 琀栀愀琀 ഊ            will  make every christian in the world foamm at the mouth? \r਀嬀椀搀搀琀崀      渀甀爀最Ⰰ 琀栀愀琀✀猀 琀栀攀 最漀愀氀 ഊ

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* Re: info invisible changes
@ 2002-11-14 13:57 Karl Berry
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Karl Berry @ 2002-11-14 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: bob, emacs-devel

    Perhaps the Info file should cointain the file name of a text image
    file and the file name of a real image file; then, depending on the 
    kind of display, the Info displayer can use one kind of image
    or the other.

Yes, this is another Info file format change that has come up before.
We should implement it when we can, along with the other format changes.

Thanks,
karl

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2002-11-01  8:04 info invisible changes Miles Bader
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2002-11-05  4:08   ` Miles Bader
2002-11-05 18:49     ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-07  4:49       ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-05 23:57     ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-06  9:51       ` Miles Bader
2002-11-06 12:46         ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-06 12:30           ` Miles Bader
2002-11-06 15:11         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-06 16:32           ` Miles Bader
2002-11-07 15:08           ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-12 10:11             ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-12  9:22               ` Miles Bader
2002-11-12 10:59                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-12 17:28                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-13 14:37                     ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-13 18:20                       ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-14 12:17                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-14 21:38                           ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-12 18:49               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-13 23:31                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-14  0:39                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-14  4:09               ` Richard Stallman
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