From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: my Emacs is broken Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:13:43 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200208172345.g7HNjLH21569@arc.math.ohio-state.edu> <200208190049.g7J0nxI09206@wijiji.santafe.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035256649 8639 80.91.224.249 (22 Oct 2002 03:17:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 03:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rost@math.ohio-state.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 183pXq-0002Eu-00 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 05:17:26 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 183pYr-0004JV-00 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 05:18:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 183pXb-000693-00; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:17:11 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 183pWb-0005O9-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:16:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 183pUG-0004ED-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:13:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 183pUF-0004Dd-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:13:43 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 183pUF-0000Xs-00; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:13:43 -0400 Original-To: kzeitler@lucent.com In-reply-to: (message from Klaus Zeitler on 21 Oct 2002 15:30:55 +0200) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8630 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8630 When I set the DISPLAY variable to 0:0 I get the same result as Markus and David Koppelman. If the DISPLAY variable is either set to `X-hostname`:0.0 (that's what I always use) or localhost:0.0 (as long as we're on the X-server), than everything's fine. David Koppelman just sent me email that it also works for him when the DISPLAY var is set properly. That does not bring us any closer to finding out what change caused the problem to appear. In general, trying different ways to invoke a failing program is an ineffective approach to debugging.