From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rmail changes for Emacs 22 Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:08:23 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1034482304 4936 127.0.0.1 (13 Oct 2002 04:11:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 04:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 180a6Q-0001HS-00 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 06:11:42 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 180awF-00017K-00 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 07:05:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 180a3w-00054F-00; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:09:08 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 180a3G-0004sb-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:08:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 180a3E-0004sK-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:08:25 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 180a3E-0004s0-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:08:24 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 180a3D-0002Cs-00; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:08:23 -0400 Original-To: d.love@dl.ac.uk In-reply-to: (message from Dave Love on 11 Oct 2002 18:32:17 +0100) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8545 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8545 The current Rmail won't work properly in Emacs 22 since no-conversion means something different, i.e. a different internal encoding. Does Emacs 22 mean the Unicode Emacs? My understanding is that no-conversion still means "use the internal multibyte rep", but since the internal rep of most characters has changed, the actual file contents will be different. Are you saying the same thing? Is there any way to read a file into the Unicode Emacs that was written using no-conversion in the current Emacs? Here's a suggestion. I did it ages ago and don't remember whether I actually tested it. Which branch is this change proposed for? The Unicode Emacs branch? The RC branch? The current HEAD? Please note that a major change in Rmail is being developed: we are going to eliminate Babyl format and use Inbox format. I expect this to be installed by the time the Unicode branch is ready for release.