From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Program-specified positions ignored? Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:46:09 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200210032003.g93K3Xd8025573@stubby.bodenonline.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033746682 16837 127.0.0.1 (4 Oct 2002 15:51:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jhd@gaffa.gaia.swipnet.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17xUjU-0004N9-00 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 17:51:16 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17xVVB-0005zr-00 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 18:40:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xUhN-0002lh-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:49:05 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17xUeh-0007cG-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:46:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17xUeZ-0007Ww-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:46:13 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xUeY-0007W0-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:46:10 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 17xUeX-00041e-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:46:09 -0400 Original-To: jan.h.d@swipnet.se In-reply-to: <200210032003.g93K3Xd8025573@stubby.bodenonline.com> (jan.h.d@swipnet.se) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8386 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8386 > > I am pretty sure that the reason for this is that including > > program-specified positions in XtNgeometry would override the window > > manager, which is wrong. But if that is the wrong way to pass the > > program-specified positions to Xt, what is the right way? A comment on the problem that started this, should not Emacs consider positions and sizes specified in .emacs as user specified? There are arguments both ways, but I think the better choice is not to do so. Can you help us figure out how to make program-specified positions work properly?