From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs cvs newbie problems Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 00:07:08 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200210011413.g91EDg632250@f7.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033531718 5463 127.0.0.1 (2 Oct 2002 04:08:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 04:08:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@is.elta.co.il, hattons@speakeasy.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17waoN-0001Py-00 for ; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 06:08:35 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17wbYr-0004F6-00 for ; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 06:56:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17waod-0005id-00; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 00:08:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17wan0-0005bh-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 00:07:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17wamy-0005bM-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 00:07:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17wamy-0005bG-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 00:07:08 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 17wamy-0001vX-00; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 00:07:08 -0400 Original-To: karl@freefriends.org In-reply-to: <200210011413.g91EDg632250@f7.net> (karl@freefriends.org) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8314 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8314 Would you like to develop a standard list of dircategory values? Oh, I've been doing that since day 1, but that has little effect on what people actually do in their texinfo files. Where is this list? If the GNU Project releases it and publicizes it as a standard, that might have some effect. How about changing makeinfo to complain when the specified dircategory is not among the few standard ones ? For that to be reasonable, our list would have to be thoroughly complete. It seems unlikely a priori that we could make a list that people never need to extend. I think we should first try putting Here are some recommended `@dircategory' categories: GNU packages GNU programming tools GNU programming documentation GNU Emacs Lisp GNU libraries Those don't seem like useful categories. Useful categories relate to jobs the user wants to find out how to do. Linux It may be that "Linux" is a useful category, but if we recommend it, we should recommend it for a specific purpose, the kernel. Even if we do recommend it for that, we take the risk that people will misunderstand it and misuse it. I suggest we change `Linux' to `GNU/Linux' GNU/Linux appears to be a useless category. On a GNU/Linux system, "GNU/Linux" as a category is equivalent to "everything".