From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: please consider emacs-unicode for pervasive changes Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 14:03:41 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200208090754.g797s6s11972@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200208130030.JAA26246@etlken.m17n.org> <200209030615.PAA10378@etlken.m17n.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031249271 11041 127.0.0.1 (5 Sep 2002 18:07:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:07:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: handa@etl.go.jp, raeburn@raeburn.org, monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17n12j-0002rp-00 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 20:07:49 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17n1cW-0006XV-00 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 20:44:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17n14L-0006Mr-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 14:09:29 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17n0ym-0005m3-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 14:03:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17n0yj-0005lr-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 14:03:43 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17n0yj-0005ll-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 14:03:41 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 17n0yj-0000hn-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 14:03:41 -0400 Original-To: d.love@dl.ac.uk In-Reply-To: (message from Dave Love on 05 Sep 2002 00:30:09 +0100) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7576 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7576 RMS complained about even chaneglogs getting changed, I recall these changes but not what caused them. Were they caused by the emacs-unicode branch? If so, what exactly was the nature of the change that occurred? Was the change a matter of replacing one correct iso-2022 representation with a different but equally correct representation for the same characters? Or was the change bigger than that? If the change was bigger than that, it could be a bug that should be fixed. but it will certainly screw various Emacs 21 lisp/{international,language} files. As part of convertng Emacs to use unicode for most characters, won't we also change these files to use unicode? So they won't be clobbered. Editing the non-unicode Emacs 21 files might change them, indeed. Is this an inevitable consequence of the unification done by Unicode? If so, we may as well just accept it, right?