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    The only one we risk confusing is the programmer, not the user.  The
    programmer will need to understand all three, the variable for
    customization, the automatically generated custom keymap, and the
    normal keymap.

I don't like this idea.  I think we should avoid making several
keymaps where we now have just one.  There are other ways to keep
track of which bindings were set by Custom, without complicating
either the non-programmer interface or the programmer interface.