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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@fencepost.gnu.org>
Cc: walters@verbum.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: config.in
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 05:22:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E16xle4-0002k4-00@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <buo662qamzo.fsf@mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp> (message from Miles Bader on 17 Apr 2002 14:54:35 +0900)

> From: Miles Bader <miles@lsi.nec.co.jp>
> Date: 17 Apr 2002 14:54:35 +0900
> 
> > > Note that even if these generated files are included, they may _still_
> > > need the auto* programs, because CVS makes no attempt to preserve
> > > timestamps, and the Makefile will attempt to regenerate the files
> > > anyway (though the checked-out contents are actually `up to date').
> > 
> > This can be handled with a simple call to `touch', if it turns out to
> > be a real problem.
> 
> That is an annoying and error-prone method of dealing with the problem
> (and yes, it's a problem, that's why this issue keeps coming up); more
> often than not, by the time you realize something's amiss, it's too
> late, and CVS has screwed up the file by inserting conflict markers.
> 
> Morever, such a solution is _certainly_ not something that you'd
> recommend to clueless users; it's easier to tell them to install
> autoconf!

You misunderstood me--or rather, I didn't explain well enough what I
meant.  I didn't mean to suggest a manual `touch'.  The idea was to
put something into the configury which will do that automatically,
assuming we can detect time stamp mismatches that are produced by CVS.

> However, if we remove configure from CVS, then we should be consistent
> and remove the other autoconf generated files too, since they don't
> require any additional tools.

Yes, I agree that we should be consistent here.

> > As another data point, the GDB development keeps all regenerated
> > files in the CVS, including configure and even the Info files.
> 
> That is their decision (though I wouldn't be surprised if exactly this
> same flame war pops up periodically on their mailing lists).

FWIW, I'm reading their lists for the last couple of years, and I
don't remember any complaints.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-17  9:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-16 18:24 config.in Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-16 18:45 ` config.in Miles Bader
2002-04-16 19:40   ` config.in Colin Walters
2002-04-16 21:00     ` config.in Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-16 21:21       ` config.in Alfred M. Szmidt
2002-04-17  4:44         ` config.in Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-17  4:59           ` config.in Colin Walters
2002-04-17  5:08           ` config.in Miles Bader
2002-04-17  9:29             ` config.in Andreas Schwab
2002-04-17  0:00       ` config.in Karl Eichwalder
2002-04-17  5:13         ` config.in Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-17  9:24           ` config.in Andreas Schwab
2002-04-17  1:08       ` config.in Miles Bader
2002-04-17  5:33         ` config.in Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-17  5:54           ` config.in Miles Bader
2002-04-17  9:22             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2002-04-17  9:28             ` config.in Andreas Schwab
2002-04-17 12:09               ` config.in Miles Bader
2002-04-18 18:45         ` config.in Richard Stallman
2002-04-19 10:08           ` config.in Andreas Schwab
2002-04-19 12:19             ` config.in Kim F. Storm
2002-04-19 11:42               ` config.in Andreas Schwab
2002-04-19 13:02                 ` config.in Kim F. Storm
2002-04-20 17:26             ` config.in Richard Stallman
2002-04-21 15:58               ` config.in Andreas Schwab
2002-04-22  7:47                 ` config.in Richard Stallman
2002-04-22  9:18                   ` config.in Andreas Schwab
2002-04-23  0:24                     ` config.in Richard Stallman
2002-04-23  9:54                       ` config.in Andreas Schwab
2002-04-24 17:55                         ` config.in Richard Stallman
2002-04-24 18:27                           ` config.in Andreas Schwab
2002-04-26  3:17                             ` config.in Richard Stallman
2002-04-26 14:32                               ` config.in Andreas Schwab
2002-04-26 14:05                             ` config.in Kim F. Storm
2002-04-27 22:41                               ` config.in Richard Stallman
2002-04-17 12:30   ` config.in Pavel Janík
2002-04-17 14:43     ` config.in Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-17 19:34       ` config.in Pavel Janík
2002-04-18 18:45     ` config.in Richard Stallman
2002-04-17 16:05   ` config.in Richard Stallman
2002-04-17 17:13     ` config.in Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-17 17:40       ` config.in Colin Walters
2002-04-17 19:30         ` config.in Pavel Janík

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