From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: dired-jump keybinding and autoload Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 13:56:34 -0700 Message-ID: References: <874p9954u9.fsf@escher.local.home> <87lk2j83m1.fsf@jurta.org> <87iq6kzuhh.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87typyei05.fsf@gmail.com> <87d3wmr4dn.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <9A67516A216749079A10805DBCAD67D1@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1274648240 16044 80.91.229.12 (23 May 2010 20:57:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 20:57:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Lennart Borgman'" , "'Chong Yidong'" , "'Stefan Monnier'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 23 22:57:18 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGIEW-000669-Ok for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 May 2010 22:57:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51806 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OGIEW-0006Yf-06 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 May 2010 16:57:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60564 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OGIEP-0006YS-DN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 May 2010 16:57:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGIEN-0001Xh-H3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 May 2010 16:57:09 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:36057) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGIEN-0001Xc-8Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 May 2010 16:57:07 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o4NKv33w000435 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 23 May 2010 20:57:05 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o4NKv25T002963; Sun, 23 May 2010 20:57:02 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt015.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 260756001274648170; Sun, 23 May 2010 13:56:10 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.88.29) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 23 May 2010 13:56:10 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acr6qGPXXgfSzC6/TiiMZ0wSyAJmPAAAcpNw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-Source-IP: acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090204.4BF996A1.013B:SCFMA922111,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125151 Archived-At: > > I do not believe that C-x is "reserved for Emacs". > > Nor should it be. > > So you answer boils down to this. > > Let us clear this out. I think C-x should be mentioned and that it is > normally reserved for Emacs use (including cua-mode of course). You > think the opposite. > > Whether it is reserved or not I think the status of it should > be mentioned. So even if it is not reserved, that non-reserved status should be mentioned? Would you do the same for all non-reserved prefix keys? For all non-reserved keys, prefix or not? Would you point out (assuming it is not "reserved") that [f2] is a predefined prefix key but to which you can add your own suffix keys? And ESC? And C-x 8 *? And ? And so on? If George Carlin had taken that approach we wouldn't have the 7 dirty words. We'd have an exhaustive treatise on all of the non-dirty words. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_dirty_words