From: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
To: tomas@tuxteam.de
Cc: rms@gnu.org, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net,
manphiz@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Tree-sitter maturity
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2024 02:05:25 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E0CBC562-3D4B-4C78-B490-9851978768CC@dancol.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z3DyQW1fWZ3E1jZk@tuxteam.de>
On December 29, 2024 1:54:57 AM EST, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
>On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 01:43:28AM -0500, Daniel Colascione wrote:
>>
>>
>> On December 29, 2024 1:41:28 AM EST, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
>> >On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 11:21:10PM -0500, Daniel Colascione wrote:
>
>[including treesitter grammars in Emacs]
>
>> >> >But there are practical eeasons why we MIGHT not want to include those
>> >> >grammar files in Emacs at all.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Such as?
>> >
>> >More difficult to get rid of?
>> >
>> >Cheers
>>
>>
>> Can you elaborate?
>
>Sure. I observe that the whole treesitter culture is one far
>away from the Gnu culture. So I adopt a careful "wait and see"
>approach. I'll compile my Emacs without tree sitter support
>for as long as I don't understand the situation. Perhaps I'll
>want to avoid the whole thing forever, it depends.
>
>This will become the more and more difficult the more TS grammars
>start displacing regular Emacs grammars.
>
>Cheers
I'm honestly confused. Tree sitter grammars are free software. How are they "far away from GNU culture"? Is "Gnu culture" just doing what we were doing in 2010, but over and over again, forever?
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2024-11-20 15:13 My resignation from Emacs development Alan Mackenzie
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2024-11-20 16:23 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21 6:22 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-21 10:05 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21 11:23 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-21 11:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 10:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-21 12:26 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-20 16:42 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-20 17:04 ` tomas
2024-11-20 21:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-21 2:28 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-21 12:34 ` Tree-sitter maturity (was: My resignation from Emacs development) Peter Oliver
2024-11-23 13:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-24 2:10 ` Tree-sitter maturity Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <67428b3d.c80a0220.2f3036.adbdSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-17 22:11 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-18 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-19 1:40 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-19 8:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-20 9:13 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <6765355b.c80a0220.1a6b24.3117SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-20 9:29 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-23 0:43 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <6768b256.c80a0220.222b1b.64e6SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-24 1:20 ` Yuan Fu
[not found] ` <87frmfxm8y.fsf@>
2024-12-24 4:52 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-24 12:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-24 21:31 ` Xiyue Deng
2024-12-26 4:30 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-27 10:54 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 13:46 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-27 14:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 14:24 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-27 14:57 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 15:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-29 4:19 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-29 4:23 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 7:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 8:01 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 8:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 8:59 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-29 9:14 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 9:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 10:01 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 20:12 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 10:13 ` tomas
2024-12-29 10:21 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-29 14:59 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 14:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-29 7:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <904957B9-55C1-42DF-BE6A-16986A4B539A@dancol.org>
[not found] ` <87r05o2eji.fsf@posteo.net>
[not found] ` <E2C32D27-EEC2-4DD2-B6F6-8827820B880E@dancol.org>
2024-12-31 16:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-29 14:36 ` Lynn Winebarger
2024-12-29 20:36 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 23:29 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <6771db94.050a0220.386e00.e451SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-30 0:30 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-30 0:36 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-30 1:00 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-31 9:48 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-30 3:20 ` Lynn Winebarger
2024-12-31 3:22 ` Björn Bidar
2024-12-31 22:29 ` Lynn Winebarger
2024-12-28 12:20 ` Peter Oliver
2024-12-28 12:23 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-29 14:50 ` Björn Bidar
2024-12-27 14:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 15:05 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-27 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-27 15:37 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-28 1:08 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-29 4:19 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-29 4:21 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 6:41 ` tomas
2024-12-29 6:43 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 6:54 ` tomas
2024-12-29 7:05 ` Daniel Colascione [this message]
2024-12-29 8:56 ` tomas
2024-12-29 15:16 ` Björn Bidar
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[not found] ` <87ed1qedhl.fsf@>
2024-12-29 15:21 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-12-29 16:02 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <663726A2-141B-4B98-80FB-BD93E99AC122@dancol.org>
2024-12-29 19:06 ` Björn Bidar
[not found] ` <6771d84b.050a0220.250914.d0e0SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-12-30 0:56 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-27 14:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 13:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-12-27 18:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-28 7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-28 8:11 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-28 8:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 15:09 ` Björn Bidar
2024-12-26 4:32 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-26 7:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-29 14:35 ` Björn Bidar
2024-12-19 12:23 ` Peter Oliver
2024-12-19 12:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-19 13:15 ` Vincenzo Pupillo
2024-12-20 8:59 ` Björn Bidar
2024-11-21 13:01 ` My resignation from Emacs development Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-21 13:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 14:29 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-11-22 0:01 ` Po Lu
2024-11-22 7:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 8:14 ` Robert Pluim
2024-11-22 8:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 23:59 ` Po Lu
2024-11-23 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 16:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22 5:35 ` Adam Porter
2024-11-22 7:24 ` Madhu
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2024-11-22 9:26 ` Madhu
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2024-11-22 12:40 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-22 13:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22 13:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-22 14:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-25 4:28 ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-26 17:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-12-13 4:35 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-15 15:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-12-15 15:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-15 20:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-12-19 4:22 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-19 8:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 22:18 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-22 10:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22 23:19 ` Adam Porter
2024-11-26 19:01 ` Daniel Radetsky
2024-11-26 19:51 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-27 2:18 ` Adam Porter
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2024-11-27 9:59 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-30 3:52 ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-30 7:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-30 16:22 ` Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel [was: My resignation from Emacs development] Drew Adams
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2024-11-30 21:06 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
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2024-12-03 7:26 ` My resignation from Emacs development Richard Stallman
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2024-11-30 21:09 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-12-01 6:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-01 19:23 ` Drew Adams
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2024-12-03 13:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-06 4:48 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-02 4:09 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-02 13:04 ` Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-02 15:32 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-12-05 5:08 ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-05 6:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2024-11-27 9:17 ` Daniel Radetsky
2024-11-22 15:36 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-22 17:48 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-23 23:43 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
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2024-11-23 7:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 11:06 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-23 11:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 12:48 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-23 23:59 ` Adam Porter
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2024-11-26 7:38 ` Suhail Singh
2024-11-21 5:59 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-22 11:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-22 11:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 10:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
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2024-11-21 13:39 ` Andrea Corallo
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2024-11-21 19:19 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-11-21 19:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 19:40 ` Jim Porter
2024-11-24 4:35 ` Richard Stallman
2024-11-21 23:57 ` Po Lu
2024-11-22 17:26 ` On committing significant and/or controversial changes (was: My resignation from Emacs development) Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-22 17:47 ` Ship Mints
2024-11-22 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-24 2:35 ` On committing significant and/or controversial changes Björn Bidar
2024-11-24 4:41 ` Adam Porter
2024-11-30 2:16 ` Björn Bidar
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